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Presented and produced by Seán Delaney

The guest on this week's programme was educational historian Antonia McManus. She appeared on the programme to mark the publication by The History Press Ireland of her book Irish Education: The Ministerial Legacy, 1919-1999. On this part of the interview Antonia McManus describes how the dominant education policy for the first four decades of the new state was the promotion of the Irish language and how four ministers for education rather than just one helped bring about free second level education. The second part of the interview will be on next week's programme.

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